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Major News Received May 31, 08: Michael Moore PayPal/Ebay Documentary
May 31 2008, 5:24 AM EDT | Post edited: May 31 2008, 5:24 AM EDT
Spread the word and help make this happen! Filming is going to begin in August 2008. The topic? Corporate abuse with eBay and PayPal as the main characters! If you want all the details, please go here:

http://www.screw-paypal.com/coffee_mug.html

The negotiations are done, but YOUR HELP IS NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE DEAL!!!!
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1. RE: Major News Received May 31, 08: Michael Moore PayPal/Ebay Documentary
Jun 1 2008, 4:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 1 2008, 4:49 PM EDT
This sounds great but I have one question. Why does the director get all of the profits if we are investing?

I also have an idea for a movie that will cover all areas of Corporate America's corruption and I'd like to talk about it with you privately. I'm sorry that when you tried to skype me the other day it didn't work. I'll try to get back to you if I can add your contact.
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2. RE: Major News Received May 31, 08: Michael Moore PayPal/Ebay Document
Jun 1 2008, 6:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 1 2008, 6:55 PM EDT
"This sounds great but I have one question. Why does the director get all of the profits if we are investing?

I also have an idea for a movie that will cover all areas of Corporate America's corruption and I'd like to talk about it with you privately. I'm sorry that when you tried to skype me the other day it didn't work. I'll try to get back to you if I can add your contact."
Well, this person does not have to make the film and, in fact, had to plans to make it. I have been "pestering" him for months now. Finally, he said, okay, "if there is so mucn support for this kind of film, are you prepared to cover the INITIAL costs." I am prepared. The question is with all the crying and complaining going on with ebay and PayPal -- are these people really prepared now to step up to the plate and get this done. It's a fair deal and I am happy to give my money. This director is going to end up putting 1 million or so of his own money into this film vs. my 1,500 and hopefully the 20 bucks from other people. He and his production company CAN HAVE EVERY CENT FROM THIS FILM IN PROFITS. My million dollars will come when I am munching popcorn watching this film. My million dollars will come watching CNN and listening to the studdering replies of eBay and PayPal execs. I did give away the house on this because I want to see this film made BY A REPUTIBLE director. Now like I said, let's see if people step up. If they don't, I am walking and done with the anti-PayPal movement -- because people have to show their support and not just leave the fight to those few who do step up --
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3. RE: Major News Received May 31, 08: Michael Moore PayPal/Ebay Document
Jun 2 2008, 2:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2008, 2:58 AM EDT
Please let me give you some advice. First look at all of my projects. I have Ultumix GNU/Linux, I have several other projects too, I even have a radio show. In the beginning I had 50 people or more sign up to help me in my efforts to make a better GNU/Linux distribution for the PS3. Not one of these people did anything and the project went under. Currently only 5 people are helping me with GNU/Linux Ultumix and I'm doing most of the work. I'd say about 80%+. People can complain about something but doing something about it is another thing. As an Assistant Scout Master in the Boy Scouts and as an Eagle Scout I have a lot of experience with children and adults and looking at their maturity. People love to complain and point out problems and they love to watch someone go down in flames bu they seldom do anything about it. I think your expecting too much out of all of this. The GNU/Linux community has over 32,000,000 hackers that help the community and how many PayPal victims want to seek justice? How many actually want to do more than just pay them off? See where I'm going?

Your not going to get the support your demanding here. You need to take this from a more strategic approach.

First of all I have learned (the hard way) that the best way to do anything is to not make a big ruckus about it until your ready to do it or the enemy will find out and counter attack or silence you. I have Anti-Christian hate groups doing a good job of that right now.
We really need to stop and plan this thing out first and I don't think we need to put much money out to do a project like this. I think that traveling expenses, a few Digital Camcorders (high quality), and advertising is in order but I don't think that this should require much cash at all. If anything this could be done for under $100,000.00 and I can tell you how. I have experience with this kind of stuff.
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4. RE: Major News Received May 31, 08: Michael Moore PayPal/Ebay Document
Jun 2 2008, 3:11 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2008, 3:11 AM EDT
"Please let me give you some advice. First look at all of my projects. I have Ultumix GNU/Linux, I have several other projects too, I even have a radio show. In the beginning I had 50 people or more sign up to help me in my efforts to make a better GNU/Linux distribution for the PS3. Not one of these people did anything and the project went under. Currently only 5 people are helping me with GNU/Linux Ultumix and I'm doing most of the work. I'd say about 80%+. People can complain about something but doing something about it is another thing. As an Assistant Scout Master in the Boy Scouts and as an Eagle Scout I have a lot of experience with children and adults and looking at their maturity. People love to complain and point out problems and they love to watch someone go down in flames bu they seldom do anything about it. I think your expecting too much out of all of this. The GNU/Linux community has over 32,000,000 hackers that help the community and how many PayPal victims want to seek justice? How many actually want to do more than just pay them off? See where I'm going?

Your not going to get the support your demanding here. You need to take this from a more strategic approach.

First of all I have learned (the hard way) that the best way to do anything is to not make a big ruckus about it until your ready to do it or the enemy will find out and counter attack or silence you. I have Anti-Christian hate groups doing a good job of that right now.
We really need to stop and plan this thing out first and I don't think we need to put much money out to do a project like this. I think that traveling expenses, a few Digital Camcorders (high quality), and advertising is in order but I don't think that this should require much cash at all. If anything this could be done for under $100,000.00 and I can tell you how. I have experience with this kind of stuff. "
I see your point -- but I am going to make this work. People do want to see this happen, and It's going to happen. And people are going to have to help to make it happen. I get about 100 emails each and every day. Out of those, 80 are really angry about what happened to them because of PayPal. The entire country of Australia is about to riot because of what eBay is doing to them right now down there. In 24 hours, Screw-PayPal.com has gotten 105 orders. Not bad. People are responding and I am going to keep working until I get the result that I want.

Regardless of PayPal and eBay knowing about this before hand is not relevant. They can't stop it, they cannot prepare for it. Sure, any bloke with a camera can make a film, but does any bloke have "star status" and the power to put this film in every major theatre in the world? Can the average bloke with a camcorder get the attention of the national and international media with their film? Answer is sadly no...

That's what we are going to get here -- a big name creating a film about a force in America that touches each and every person.

While I can sympathatize with your experiences, I can tell you this: the psychology of your average hacker and computer junkie is different from that of the average joe -- that entire community are practically hermits. I think Screw-PayPal.com's audience is a little more willing to go out in the open and make a difference. We'll see...but we have to try. I am not done and there's a lot of new things that I am going to be doing in the very near future.
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5. RE: Major News Received May 31, 08: Michael Moore PayPal/Ebay Document
Jun 2 2008, 3:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2008, 3:44 AM EDT
Ok I'll consider that. However I would like you to hear me out some time about my idea for "Project Corruption" a multi billion dollar idea that I haven't shared openly with enough people to count on my hand. As far as free videos check this one out for quality: http://www.vimeo.com/1084537 Also check out some of the footage by http:www.KillerCoke.com and http://pediaopeness.wetpaint.com/page/Anonymous . Free movies and video footage will spread faster than what you have to pay for but if you want to get it in theaters thats another story. However you can do both. You can release bits and pieces of the movie on Youtube.com and other sites and then release the full movie on DVD on Amizon.com and in theaters. Try looking for Revolution OS. This video was done back in 2001. I'll tell you one thing. So much junk is in the theaters these days that I don't go to watch. If you really want to make a difference release this to 20/20 and CNN after it's done.
"Project Corruption" could really help your cause but we need to talk privately about that. It would also get us all the funding we need to do anything we need to do.
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6. RE: Major News Received May 31, 08: Michael Moore PayPal/Ebay Document
Jun 22 2008, 7:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 22 2008, 7:07 AM EDT
I am in. I can supply all equipment.
I have 56 reseller, the biggest ring on eBay (went down yesterday) with no explenation.
email me or add me to msn
moe@dealzrus.net
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